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COLLEGE STATION - Breathe easy. New York City sludge spread on a ranch 
in windy West Texas isn't stirring pathogens into the air, a new study 
has found. 
 "The most important finding is that the population in Sierra Blanca is 
not being impacted by the sludge application," said Dr. Suresh Pillai, 
environmental microbiologist at Texas A&M University's Agricultural 
Research Center at El Paso. "This sludge application poses little risk 
under the conditions." 
 Sierra Blanca, with a population of about 700 people, is only about 
four miles from the ranch site which has been a repository for New York 
City sludge since 1993. Pillai studied the location, taking air samples 
in the spring and fall of 1995 over an eight-month period, to see if 
people were breathing air contaminated by disease-causing organisms.
 His lab analyzed the samples for salmonella, fecal coliforms, viruses 
and sludge indicators called hydrogen sulfide producers and clostridia, 
but no significant amounts of any of those pathogens were found. 
 "Air quality is the last issue that we didn't have data on," said Bob 
Carlile of College Station, technical director for MERCO Joint Venture, 
the company which is applying the sludge. "Previous studies have shown 
that we are improving the soil, the quality and quantity of vegetation 
on the project and that we are not impacting the water. We didn't have 
scientific data on the air until now." 
 Sludge is being applied at a rate of three tons per acre per year to 
about 18,000 acres of a 120,000-acre ranch near Sierra Blanca, about 75 
miles east of El Paso in the Chihuahuan desert. The Chihuahuan Desert 
spreads over some 175,000 square miles in southern New Mexico, the 
Trans-Pecos Region of Texas and much of northern Mexico. Some residents 
near the site were concerned about the possibility of pathogens becoming 
airborne because it is an arid, windy region. 
 Carlile said that the company will continue to conduct research on the 
location because it is the largest biosolids recycling effort - in terms 
of land area being used - in the nation.
 "It is a controversial project being looked at by a lot of different 
people. That's why we're the standard bearer. We are spending tremendous 
amounts of dollars to get the answers," he said. 
 The company also has sought research on the extent to which the applied 
sludge is moved off site by wind erosion, according to Dr. B.L. Harris, 
Texas Agricultural Extension Service soil specialist.
 "The overall amounts of both mineral and organic materials being moved 
onto and off the application areas is almost too small to measure," 
Harris reported. "Applying biosolids reduces wind erosion by roughening 
the surface, thereby increasing the boundary layer of air just above the 
ground surface." 
 Harris also said the application of biosolids reduces wind erosion 
because the material contains nutrients which promoted the growth of 
plant species which serve as windbreaks that also filter particulate 
matter out of the air as it crosses the site. 
 "Based on these studies to date, there should be little concern about 
potentials for the applied biosolids to be moved offsite by wind," 
Harris said. 
 Yet because of its location in an arid, windswept region, company 
officials wanted to make sure that no pathogens were being stirred up in 
the air. At Sierra Blanca, wind speeds of up to 40 miles per hour are 
common in the spring. 
 "With the ban on ocean sludge dumping and the increasing restrictions 
on landfills, disposal onto land surfaces becomes almost the only 
alternative and is expected to increase in the future," he noted.
 Pillai collected air from five locations - upwind, at the 
rangeland-population interface, at the old application site, at the 
current application site and at the hopper loading site - throughout the 
two study periods. The collection devices, called impingers, where 
placed on poles and set to collect at a rate similar to the breathing 
patterns of humans - about five feet in height and three gallons of air 
in 20 minutes.
 An average person breathes about 20 cubic meters of air per day. 
Microbiological analyses then were performed on the concentrated air 
samples at Pillai's El Paso lab.
 "We looked for the total numbers of bacteria in the samples, looked for 
specific pathogens such as salmonella, then we did some genetic 
fingerprinting of airborne clostridia to help us determine their 
sources," Pillia said. 
 He explained that clostridia are bacteria that forms spores. Since 
sludges have gone through a heat digestion process, the clostridia 
originating from sludges are heat tolerant. So, by comparing the genetic 
fingerprint of airborne heat tolerant clostridia with that of the 
clostridia isolated directly from the sludges and surrounding soils, it 
is possible to identify the sources of airborne clostridia, according to 
Pillai.
 "This new molecular fingerprinting has tremendous application in doing 
exposure studies to trace the origins of airborne bacteria," Pillai 
said. "Future studies of this type will need to include the analysis of 
clostridia in addition to the other pathogens so that sources could be 
identified.
Company Accuses AG of Using Political Pressure in Dump Dispute 
AUSTIN, 1992 (AP) The company that wants to dump New York City sewage 
sludge in West Texas filed a motion Friday to block Attorney General Dan 
Morales from trying to stop the operation. 
MERCO Joint Venture accused Morales of exerting ``improper political 
pressure'' in his efforts to keep the sludge from being spread in 
Hudspeth County, about 90 miles southeast of El Paso. 
``It is most disturbing that Mr. Morales, based solely on the hope of 
political heroism, seeks to impede a productive, proven and 
environmentally-superior solution,'' said George Fore, director of 
ranching operations for the Oklahoma-based MERCO. 
MERCO filed its motion with U.S. District Judge Lucius Bunton to keep 
Morales from stopping their operation. Trial is set for November in 
Pecos. The outcome may affect a similar operation planned for Reeves 
County by Weldon Reed, Inc. of Amarillo.
On Thursday, Morales asked the Texas Water Commission to review the 
permit under which MERCO is operating. 
It's not enough just to meet Texas' requirements on the wastes, Morales 
says. 
Texas law prohibits the disposal of out-of-state sewage sludge that 
doesn't meet the more stringent requirements of the two states, which in 
this case is New York's, Morales said in a letter to the agency. 
``We will not be the dumping ground for the nation. If this sludge is so 
beneficial and in full compliance with the state of New York's 
regulations, I find it curious that the city of New York would spend 
tens of millions of dollars to ship it 1,500 miles instead of spreading 
it on their own soil,'' he said. 
MERCO officials said they are required only to comply with Texas 
regulations. 
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 Jon Masters, general counsel for MERCO Joint Venture, said that contract 
 "Money is getting tight," Masters said. "We are going to have to find a 
 MERCO is midway through a six-year, $168 million contract to dispose of 
 New York had plans to build eight disposal and treatment plants, but 
 "They are looking at different alternatives to long-term disposal in New 
 The Sierra Blanca ranch has thousands of acres still untouched by 
 Tech is in its third year of evaluation on the Sierra Blanca project.
 "The scientific results are all very positive," Masters said. "We have a 
 MERCO is interested in getting Texas sludge, Masters said.
 "We are persuing potential Texas generators. We have to evaluate their 
 The Texas Natural Resources Conservation Commission has approved MERCO's 
 He sees no problem with getting approval.
 "We have had only one episode that caused us a problem with TNRCC," he 
 MERCO paid a fine about 1½ years ago for applying sludge that failed to 
  
 Weldon Reed of Amarillo, who proposed applying sludge to Reeves County 
 "If we do anything, it will be with them," he said.
 Texas cities are building treatment plants and have clean sludge for 
 "Those states back there are really on the ball," he said.
 Jaroy Moore, superintendent of the Texas A&M Research Station, said he 
 "I have no plans to do anything else," he said.
 PECOS, Aug. 1992 - Citizens interested in commenting on five 
 The meeting was originally scheduled for Aug. 6 but cancelled due to a 
 Reed has submitted applications to apply sludge to 7,980 acres near 
 Proposed sites are:
 - 5,000 acres located 1.5 miles south of Verhalen on the west side of 
 - 1,340 acres located 3.5 miles west of Verhalen;
 - 590 acres located northwest of Verhalen on the west side of State 
 - 570 acres located two miles north of Verhalen on the west side of 
 - 480 acres located four miles north of Verhalen and 1.5 miles east of 
 Copies of Reed's applications are on file in the Reeves County Library, 
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 PECOS, Mar. 4, 1996 - Tri-Star Television did "a hatchet job to gain 
  Joseph Tydings, lead attorney for Merco Joint Venture, said the company 
  Merco is applying New York sewage sludge to a 128,000-acre ranch they 
  "Tech has an ongoing research project on the ranch since it opened," he 
  The project has received national and international acclaim, Tydings 
  He said that producers for Tri-Star Television laid out a plan for the 
  "They ignored all the claims the ranch land was being restored," he 
  Content of the show was directly contrary to the findings made in 
  "He ruled against Texas and permitted the project to go forward," 
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 Journalists and media should be more honest that they do have opinions, 
 Moore's "Dog-Eat-Dog" company produced the "Sludge Train" segment of a 
 "TV Nation" was a humorous, "dealing with issues" series that aired on 
 He said the general idea for the sludge segment was to do something with 
 "My original idea was a garbage barge. We made inquiries if we could 
 Since it was not a news show, the program did not require the same 
 "People liked the show mostly because it was humourous and it had 
 Questioned by Merco attorney Joseph Tydings about Sierra Blanca 
 "I don't think evidence was the point. That's how he felt," Moore said.
 "Do you believe it is possible to deceive the listening public by 
 "No," Moore said..."The fact that it was not there says `this is how he 
 Tydings asked Moore if TriStar Television, who commissioned the TV 
 "That's crazy, isn't it? Yeah," said Moore.
 "You are almost like a movie star in the old days under contract with a 
 "If you say I'm like a movie star, I think your credibility is in 
 As to the sludge segment of TV Nation, Moore said he may have spent less 
 "You knew there was a charge of poisoning the people of Texas?" asked 
 "Does it say that? The show took that position? I think you are 
 "Do you think references to that in the piece would require additional 
 "It was enough for me that many people of the town seemed to be upset 
 Hugh Kaufman, an employee of the Environmental Protection Agency, made 
 "I think it is o.k. for people to have a specific point of view," Moore 
 "That's all part of the journalistic mix, and it is healthy in a 
 Peter Kinoy, testifying by deposition, said that he edited the videotape 
 The first process is to select film segments that best visually and 
 Moore's comments on the rough cut were followed in further editing, he 
 Mitch Singer, a lawyer for TriStar, said he advised the company on all 
 As to Kaufman's statements, Singer said Alswang told him that Kaufman 
 Singer said he knew of no statements on the Sludge Train segment that 
 Merco claims the show damaged their reputation and future business deals.
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 Seven Sierra Blanca High School senior history and legal studies 
 Merco Joint Venture, who is applying New York City sludge (aka 
 Hugh Kaufman, an employee of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, 
 His authority is in the area of toxic waste cleanup under the EPA 
 Sludge is not toxic waste, but biosolids approved by the EPA and Texas 
 Sludge application has probably quadrupled grazing capacity, Fore said. 
 Merco invested $1.5 million in a railroad spur to receive the sludge, 
 They also constructed a washing station to clean the containers after 
 Fore said he was "acutely disappointed" by the TV Nation broadcast 
 Fran Alswang, producer of the segment, "Sludge Train," interviewed him 
 The show had a chilling effect on Merco's future projects, he said. "It 
 Officials with TNRCC had privately agreed to lift restrictions on 
 Fore said he recommended that Merco not go forward with two planned 
 Under cross examination, Fore said that the sludge Merco applies is 25 
 Asked if the 12 tons of water in itself would make the grass grow, Fore 
 "Twelve tons of water probably is not enough to wet the carpet in this 
 The moisture is gone after 24 hours, and the solids remain in chunks on 
 Asked if the wind will blow it around, Fore said "No."
 Ed Wagner, formerly employed by the New York City Department of 
 Recent changes in the treatment process remove most of the harmful 
 His explanation of the process for Alswang's cameras was not made a part 
 Dr. Ron Sosebee, chairman of range, wildlife and fisheries department at 
 Merco gave Tech a $1.6 million grant to conduct the research he said. 
 The six-year research project is devoted to soil and plant response to 
 Annual reports are made to Merco on results of the research, and they 
 Seven graduate students each have their own project, which they will use 
 The research has drawn interest from several countries, and a proposal 
 "Everything we are finding certainly has implications througout the 
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 PECOS, Mar. 8, 1996 - Attorneys for Merco Joint Venture, TriStar 
  Merco claims they were damaged the tune of $30.4 million and asked for 
  Kaufman, an EPA whistle blower, has the right under the first amendment 
  Dan Davison said that TriStar Television has the right to air Kaufman's 
  The "TV Nation" production that triggered the suit won an Emmy award 
  That Emmy was the motivation for the piece, said Joseph Tydings, 
  Davison denied there was a game plan, citing Moore's testimony that the 
  Merco called 23 witnesses, but presented no evidence that it had been 
  Economist Wayne Ruhter testified that Merco is making more money than 
  Testimony on both sides of the issue proves that land application of 
  Tydings said the issue is not first amendment rights to express an 
  The tort of libel protects the right of all citizens to keep their good 
  "If the First Amendment is being eroded, it is being eroded from within 
 False statements alluded to were Bill Addington's statement that someone 
  Evans told the jury their decision would have a far-reaching effect.
  Lewis Herrin, an employee of the Texas Natural Resources Conservation 
 Herrin also found the sludge did not comply with New York's regulations 
 Kaufman believed the Merco operation was illegal in Texas then, and that 
 Merco has a $168 million contract to accept New York City sludge for six 
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 PECOS, Mar. 11, 1996 - Hugh Kaufman, an Environmental Protection Agency 
 The jury found that Kaufman and TriStar defamed Merco Join Venture in a 
 False, commercially disparaging statements were made on the program, and 
  They awarded punitive damages of $500,000 against Kaufman, who said on 
 TriStar should pay Merco $4.5 million for broadcasting the statements, 
 Punitive damages send a message to others that they cannot libel the 
 Kaufman, who said he planned to appeal, said his statements were true 
 Merco claimed the show damaged its reputation and put future business 
 Film producer Michael Moore said ``TV Nation'' was a humorous series 
 Testifying earlier this week, Moore said the general idea for the sludge 
 Moore contended that since the show was not a news show, the program did 
 Moore first gained fame with a humorous documentary film, ``Roger and 
  
 By PEGGY McCRACKEN
not likely to go away anytime soon, as Texas cities bid for space to 
dispose of municipal waste.
negotiations are underway with New Jersey for sludge disposal. However, 
he said transportation costs may prohibit shipping it to their ranch at 
Sierra Blanca.
land application closer to the generator."
New York City sludge on the 128,000-acre ranch.
have decided against building some composting facilities, Masters said.
York to what they originally planned," he said. "It would appear that 
New York City is going back to the street with requests for proposals 
for long-term application. We anticipate we would be responding to that."
sludge, and a Texas Tech University study has determined it would be 
beneficial to the land if a second application is made on the rangeland, 
Masters said.
whole lot more land than we have fertilizer to fertilize it. But is it 
economical to transport it from the east coast?"
product (before contracting)," he said.
registration for New York City sludge only. Any additional sources would 
have to be approved by the commission, he said.
said. "They seem to feel like we are probably a good project."
meet TNRCC requirements.
 
"Beyond that, we have a decent relationship," Masters said. "As long as 
the sludge meets all standards, I can't see any reason why they would 
deny it."
farmland, said he is still in contact with municipalities in Texas with 
an eye to obtaining sludge.
disposal, he said. He expects eastern states to begin applying their own 
sludge for beneficial use instead of shipping it to Texas.
never got a reply to his proposal to the TNRCC for a grant to apply 
sludge on cotton farmland at the station for research purposes.
Reeves County faces sludge issue
applications by Weldon Reed, Inc. to apply treated wastewater sludge to 
five sites in Reeves County are invited to attend a public meeting at 7 
p.m. Sept. 3 in the Reeves County Civic Center.
scheduling conflict, said Helen Pitts for the Texas Water Commission, 
who will conduct the hearing.
Verhalen. The sludge will be tilled into the soil to utilize sludge 
nutrients in the production of cotton and forage crops at the rate of 
seven dry tons per acre.
State Highway 17;
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office of county clerk; and at the TWC field office in Odessa.
MERCO says it got hatchet job
By PEGGY McCRACKEN
Staff Writer
fame, publicity and profits" in producing and broadcasting a segment 
titled "Sludge Train" a federal court jury heard this morning.
was damaged by the story, which appeared on NBC-TV affiliates Aug. 2, 
1994.
purchased near Sierra Blanca for that purpose. Calling the sludge 
biosolids for beneficial use, the New York company gave Texas Tech 
University a $1.5 million grant to study the results.
said. "They have over 3,000 plots, testing every day the effect of 
biosolids."
said. Soil leaders from China, Africa and Mexico have visited the ranch, 
and students from Tech are being trained there.
"Sludge Train" segment of a "TV Nation" show before anyone visited the 
project, quoting from internal memos that called it the "shit-train 
project."
said. "They didn't even talk to the Tech scientists working there."
litigation before Chief Judge Lucius Bunton in a lawsuit filed by Texas 
Attorney General Dan Morales in an attempt to stop the sludge 
application before it started in 1992, Tydings said.
Tydings said.
Film producer says sludge train story humorous
 By PEGGY McCRACKEN
Staff Writer
film producer Michael Moore told a federal court jury this morning.
"TV Nation" broadcast that is the subject of a libel suit filed by Merco 
Joint Venture.
NBC affiliates in the summer of 1994, Moore said. It earned him an Emmy 
as an outstanding informational series.
garbage and pollution.
ride a garbage barge, but couldn't. Them someone found out about the 
sludge train from New York," he said.
journalistic ethics as a documentary, Moore said.
substance to it. It dealt with things people were concerned about," he 
said.
businessman Bill Addington's statements on the show that his lumberyard 
was burned down because of his opposition to sludge, Moore said it was 
not necessary to present evidence that Merco did not commit arson.
purposefully withholding information which contradicts the story line 
that your show is trying to present?" asked Tydings.
believes.' It is his feelings, but we are not going to take a position 
on that."
Nation series, later gave him a 26-month contract with an undisclosed 
salary, "regardless of whether of not you ever produced another show?"
studio?" asked Tydings.
question," said the hulking, bearded producer, evoking laughter from 
spectators.
than five hours working on it. He said he developed the story line and 
viewed rough cuts of the final segment.
Tydings.
misrepresenting the entire piece. That's not what it is about," Moore 
said.
investigation?" asked Tydings.
about the sludge process," Moore said.
the remark about New York sludge poisoning the people of Texas. He 
testified most of Thursday, admitting that the EPA docked his salary for 
the time he spend investigating Merco.
said, using William Buckley's conservative "National Review" and Jim 
Hightower's liberal radio show as examples.
democracy to take a position and state their beliefs. I don't think it 
is the responsibility of either side to have to present all sides of the 
story. It is enough to say, `this is what I believe and this is why,'" 
Moore said.
at the direction of Fran Alswang, the producer who researched, 
interviewed and directed the filming.
audibly tell the story as you understand it, he said. Those are 
assembled into a rough cut that is twice as long as the final story, he 
said.
said.
legal matters relating to the show. After viewing the rough cut, he 
recommended editing out the word "dump" from Addington's statement about 
his opposition to sludge, "to make it asbsolutely clear no one is 
identifiable as committing arson."
was a person with EPA who had knowledge of Merco and that he was 
investigating a potential hazardous waste site at Sierra Blanca.
were false or probably false.
EPA maverick says sludge poison
By PEGGY McCRACKEN
Staff Writer
students got a lesson in courtroom procedure Tuesday when they attended 
the sludge-TV trial underway in federal court.
biosolids) to a Sierra Blanca ranch, claims they were slandered by a "TV 
Nation" broadcast Aug. 2, 1994.
said on the broadcast that Merco is poisoning the people of Texas. Under 
questioning by Merco lawyers this morning, Kaufman denied that the EPA 
has ordered him not to speak on their behalf.
"I can speak on areas where I have official authority," he said.
Superfund program, he said.
Natural Resources Conservation Commission for beneficial use, said 
George Fore, Merco ranch manager in his testimony Tuesday.
He and two investors formed Porvenir Cattle Co. to graze the acreage on 
a lease basis and to manage wildlife. The mule deer population has 
doubled, and antelope has tripled, he said.
plus a storage shed the size of two football fields to hold sludge when 
it rains, he said.
sludge is dumped and built dirt berms to contain runoff around the shed 
and wash rack.
because it misrepresented the character of the project, and "no one was 
allowed to speak for Merco on the beneficial use program."
for over two hours, but did not use any of the interview in the show, he 
said.
threw cold water on some political relationships. It made it much more 
difficult for a public figure to take a position for recycling 
biosolids... It made it appear environmentally dangerous and that 
dishonest, law-breaking companies were conducting it," he said.
grazing cattle on the land, but after the show were hesitant to do so. 
They finally did approve it, though.
projects in New York as a result of the show.
percent solids and 75 percent liquid. That means that on one acre, three 
tons of solids and 12 tons of water is applied.
laughed.
courtroom," he said. "It doesn't hurt anything."
the ground for two years or more.
"I imagine the jury has seen cow chips, and I doubt they ever saw any of 
them flying through the air," he said, evoking laughter from spectators 
and Senior Judge Lucius Bunton.
Environmental Protection, said that waste water is treated for several 
months before it is shipped out as beneficial biosolids.
elements, such as heavy metals and pathogens, he said.
of the "Sludge Train" show.
Texas Tech University, said he administers Tech's research program at 
the Merco ranch.
That grant was used to influence the TNRCC's approval of Merco's sludge 
registration, he said.
biosolid application, he said. No strings are attached to the grant.
are available by mail to anyone who requests them, Sosebee said. Results 
to date have been positive, he said.
for their doctoral dissertations, he said. Two resident scientists live 
on the site.
has been submitted for collaboration with China on the same type of 
project, he said.
world," he said.
MERCO wants to send media message: tell the truth
By PEGGY McCRACKEN
Staff Writer
Television and Hugh Kaufman spent the morning summing up evidence 
presented over the past four days in the federal court trial over a 
"Sludge Train" story.
an additional $30 million to send a message that the media cannot 
publish stories they know to be false and defamatory.
to the U.S. Constitution to state his belief that the sludge Merco is 
applying on a Sierra Blanca ranch is poisoning the people and is an 
"illegal haul and dump operation," said his attorney, Martha Evans.
statements and those of Sierra Blanca residents who oppose sludge 
application in their backyard.
for its producer, Michael Moore.
representing Merco. He said the "hatchet job" was outlined in a writer's 
game plan memo early in the project, and the final product followed the 
suggested story line, he said.
story was his idea and Fran Alswang's testimony that the story line 
developed as she researched and interviewed people.
damaged, and their motivation for filing the suit was to send a message 
that they will attack corporations and citizens who speak out against 
them, he said.
they did before the show, Davison said.
sludge is controversial, and public discussion of controverisal issues 
is vital, he said, pointing to the banning of DDT, asbestos and lead in 
gasoline and paint.
 "Those are things at one point in our past the government scientists 
thought were safe," he said. "but at some point they started to disagree 
and it became public. It was debated and science went forward."
opinion, but libel.
name and reputation without fear of reckless, wanton lies, he said.
 "That's a tremendously important right...We believe in free speech with 
all our hearts. But with free speech is responsibility to tell the 
truth," he said.
by the few journalists who hide behind it," he said. "We agree they have 
the right to express an opinion, but they don't have the right to lie 
about us; broadcast false statements."
set fire to his lumberyard because of his opposition to sludge and to 
Kaufman's claims of poisoning and illegal dumping.
 "We live in a world of big government and big corporations, and we need 
someone on the inside like Hugh Kaufman to let us know what's going on."
Commission, testified Thursday that he would not have approved Merco's 
application for sludge registration had he known they were not qualified 
to business in Texas at the time, she said.
on the use of copper, but "he was under orders to process Merco's 
application as quickly as possible," she said.
application of heavy metals is a long-term health risk to the people of 
Sierra Blanca, she said.
years. New York officials have indicated they will renew the contract 
when it expires in 1968, Davison said.
Kaufman, TriStar to appeal $5 million verdict
 By PEGGY McCRACKEN
Staff Writer
whistle blower, and TriStar Television Inc. are expected to appeal a $5 
million verdict returned Friday by a federal jury at the close of a 
week-long trial in the Pecos Division courtroom.
"TV Nation" segment titled "Sludge Train" on Aug. 2, 1994; that the 
defamatory statements were false and made with malice.
Kaufman and TriStar knew it, the jury found. They awarded Merco $1 in 
actual damages from each of the defendants.
the show that Merco's application of New York sludge on a Sierra Blanca 
ranch is an illegal haul and dump operation which is poisoning the 
people of Texas.
the jury decided.
good name of an individual or company, said Joseph Tydings, Merco's lead 
attorney.
``I think the jury was deeply offended that a program such as this would 
receive any Emmy,'' Tydings told the Associated Press following the 
verdict. ``I think it was reflected in the punitive damages.'' 
and should have been legally protected opinion. 
``The jury ruled that my making a statement based on that opinion was 
malice,'' he said. ``If I had a newspaper in Texas, I'd shut down the 
editorial page.'' 
deals into jeopardy. 
``dealing with the issues'' that aired briefly on NBC affiliates in 
summer 1994. The series earned Moore an Emmy as an outstanding 
informational series. 
segment was to do something with garbage and pollution. 
``My original idea was a garbage barge,'' Moore said. ``We made 
inquiries if we could ride a garbage barge, but couldn't. Then someone 
found out about the sludge train from New York.'' 
not have to adhere to the same journalistic ethics as a documentary. 
``People liked the show mostly because it was humorous and it had 
substance to it,'' Moore testified. ``It dealt with things people were 
concerned about.'' 
Me,'' in which he sought to talk to General Motors chairman Roger Smith 
about the closing of an automobile plant in Moore's hometown in 
Michigan. 
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